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Saturday, December 16, 2017

What are the Features of Indo-European culture?

What makes up Indo-European culture? In the last post, we had a long list of books and authors for anyone who wants to learn the basic history and nature of Indo-European culture across its many manifestations, which is very useful for understanding the correct spirit in which to practice the Runes for maximum resonance.

But given that we're dealing with fallible human beings here, not every author is going to be totally on-point with their analysis. And inevitably those books and authors will contain some amount of personal interpretation and hypothesis, and disagree with each other on some points. And while Indo-European cultures have never been based on doctrines or commandments, and there is no 100% universal set of "rules", there are nevertheless some consistent threads and themes throughout all of it. So lets distill it to the basics; just what are the essential elements and features of Indo-European culture?

First, there is the overarching worldview of Indo-European cultures. This worldview is remarkably consistent across all of them - Celtic, Germanic, Slavic, Iranian, Tocharian, north Indian, Hittite, and many others. It can generally be broken down into nine elements, which follow in no particular order:

1. We do not know everything there is to know, nor do we presume to have all the answers, though we do have many helpful ones; the answers to everything are not all contained in a book or a scroll; the Lore is a general guide, not a dogma; exploration is encouraged and valued. This is the Odinic ethic of curiosity. Alain de Benoist calls it the “Faustian spark” or “Promethean spark”.

2. Time has cycles, rather than an absolute beginning and end. Much of what happens, now, has happened in recurring cycles before; people merely forget, or grow detached from theor blood-memory. There is no damnation for beliefs; deeds are far more important. Indo-European culture has always accepted time cycles and reincarnation as realities. That said, reincarnation is not a universal destiny. And it is definitely not a punishment.

3. The concept of “fate” is malleable. While a person cannot completely undo their spiritual nature and tendencies (Orlog), they can master it to influence their Karma or Wyrd by learning how to use the strengths and mitigate the blind spots in their Orlog to make better decisions.

4. Nature is integral to Indo-European culture as we are part of nature, not something artificial. There is no treating nature as a mere resource to be exploited, no devaluing of the non-human life. Indo-European culture only consumes as much as is necessary, and makes every effort to replace what it consumes. It is frugal, not merely sustainable.

5. Freedom is essential to Indo-European culture. Slavery is an aberration borrowed from hunter or herder cultures, or imposed by them; in the history of most Indo-European civilizations, it is a relatively late development connected with their decline (as in the Viking age), though usually as consequence, not cause; primordial Ur-Aryan culture had no need for it. However, care must be taken to distinguish true freedom from “liberty”. True freedom is not in deceptive carrots of “liberties” but rather in the active and uncoerced fulfillment of duties toward folk and land.

6. The bonds of oath and gift are sacred; Freedom does not mean disregarding duties and oaths, but rather, picking them carefully and honoring them once taken. Oaths are not taken lightly. Northern Indo-Europeans said “my word is my bond” and Southern Indo-Europeans said “nothing is so foul as to tell a lie, or owe a debt, for debtors lie”. In both cases, the message is the same. If you are more accountable to debts than to oaths, you are a vile worm and fallen foul of the ethics. The reciprocal principle also stems from this; a gift requires a gift in return, whether we are talking about gifting physical presents, healing, offerings, advice, or knowledge. That which is asked for, must be repaid. That which is showered freely upon all, is valued truly by none.

7. The bonds of blood are also sacred. Betraying one's family is one of the worst treasons. That said, if one's family members are engaged in ignoble or abusive activities, you should not join in, but unless they are forcing you, cutting off ties with family is highly despised. The destruction of the family, the atomization of folk, is anathema to everything that Indo-European culture stands for.

8. The Solar-Agricultural Principle is active in all Indo-European cultures: we encourage what can only be called Sun-like behavior – that is, to aim for excellence in all things, strength and speech included, so that your very essence is the radiant Sun in microcosm. Solar people do not rely on others for strength or validation; they produce their own. Solar people have absolute conviction in the honor of their actions, and despise dishonorable ones; to shine like the Sun, you must first burn like it – and give light and warmth to those around you, as the Sun gives life to the Land and the plants. We do not own land so much as we own title to its stewardship; hence good land is cultivated and not despoiled. Likewise, we do not own people, but rather guide them. The ancient Indo-Europeans were not plunderers or herders, nor "fishers of men" but rather builders of noble civilizations – both frugal and advanced at the same time. Consider the Abgallu who took Sumer from barren fishing villages to lush garden cities and the heights of the sciences – or the Yamnaya, who did much the same for Europe. Think of Atlantis, of Thule, of Agartha. People who plant crops think one or two seasons ahead; people who plant people think centuries ahead. Be farmers, not herders.

9. Thinking is Lateral, not Critical; For all ideas and axioms in Indo-European culture, there is a nuance to the understanding. Things are almost never “black and white”. To reach the truth, what is needed is often the ability to think laterally, in terms of many alternate possibilities for any given problem or data set. This enables you to avoid being sucked into the herder trap of critical “thinking” taught in most state schools today, which reduces all thought processes to a crude (and often) false dichotomy of two misleading choices (critical dialectic), rather than allowing as many choices as the situation/data itself reasonably indicates exist (true lateral thinking). Only in the expanded realm of Lateral Thinking, can you hit the noble truth with the sharpness of Odin's spear.

If this wasn't enough, lets distill it down a bit more. The worldview of ancient Indo-Europeans may strike people in this “modern world” as strange, so we must often peel back the commonly used labels of today to reveal the original meanings of apparently simple words.

First we have the Nine Noble Virtues (Die Neun Ehrenheilkraften or Noh Arya-Kara). These are often seen as only being unique to Asatru or Germanic Heathenry, but they are just as applicable to other Indo-European cultures, as the values in the Lore are the same. Again, these are general guidelines, not commandments. It is possible that not every Indo-European society valued all of them, or valued them all equally, or even named them all; nonetheless you will not find any that neglected them wholesale.

These Nine Virtues are closely related to Yggdrasil's first metaphysical root; that of Arising. These are generally lessons learned from the Past that are vital to the formation of a noble Indo-European society from its beginnings, so that the beginning is not perverted or stunted by coercive nifling herd-dogmas. And Yggdrasil itself is also not limited to Germanic spirituality; all Indo-European cultures recognize it in some form as a living universal structure. In Greater Iran it was known as Harvisptokhm (the seed-tree of the Highest, eternal tree, or the tree of all seeds), in India as Akshaya Vata (tree of the Eternal Wind) or Ashvattha (the ever-remaining), and Baltic cultures knew it as Austras koks (tree of eternal dawn).


Courage: We must be courageous in our endeavor! We must have inner strength that to face any task at hand- the courage to stand by our folk and to keep holy Rita and principles. These are the foundations for the furtherance of our ideals; be unflinching in your courage to evolution, the material evolution serving the spiritual, not hindering it: the very sustenance of our Being.

Truth: Courage fosters truth, and truth furthers courage- we must be incessant in striving for what we know to be true. Truth is the underlying principle of holy improvement, and ultimately that which steels us in our courage! Without truth, we have no grouding, no consciousness on any level, nor courage to achieve and evolve, relegating our Being to a farcical play.

Honor: Our honor is our worth, without worth, we are nothing. Without honor, we are doomed to the darkest corner of Helheim; without worth, we do not further our Folk, kin, or ourselves, but instead hold back that evolution for which Indo-European culture strives. Our deeds, both foul and fair outlive us, and carry the burden or glory of our Beings- we cannot allow ourselves to accrue the baggage of failure or disgrace that our children and their children would subsequently bear!

Loyalty: In this 'modern era', loyalty is the first thing to falter - loyalty is what holds our kin and friends to us, what holds them true and keeps those bonds strong. Our oaths serve as the conduit where the power of our folk-essence travels, the very web that weaves together the tapestry of our spiritual paths. We must be unfailing in our loyalties- to our Gods, Ancestors, Rita (cosmic law), and our fellow traveler. Any breach of loyalty is a tear upon the fabric of the weave, and so threatens the unmaking of the Whole overall. We as folk cannot suffer to permit a betrayal on any level!

Discipline: We grasp and shape our own Orlog (luck) and Wyrd (result/consequence). This carries forth from our own personal sphere to that of the Indo-European megafolk overall. We must have the discipline that keeps us true to our principles and virtues, and allows us to master our resolve and focus. We must remain free of dependencies and self-destructive habits that are the nemesis of evolution: which sow the seeds of our own demise.

Hospitality: We rely on the strengths of loyalty and love that are forged by our mutual Oath...what good are such things when we think only of self and can't be bothered otherwise? We must be ready and willing to lend help and assistance where we can, to folk of noble heart, when it is needed - what good are we to those to whom we are bound if we cannot depend on one another?

Industriousness: We are worthless if we cannot work to advance our families, to provide better for them in providing the best we can for our reaching high goals, in striving for perfection in all areas of life, we lay that example for our children, as they will for their own. Laziness is unacceptable and a true disservice to them. We must build our community and work to further our standing in society, which also strengthens it! We cannot simply 'settle' for the mediocre, nor be satisfied in simply surviving - this does nothing to inspire our children to to achieve or evolve!

Self-reliance: Freedom is the essence of all joyous life! To need reliance on others, or to be bound in thralldom to servitude, is worse than death! We cannot be satisfied to let others think for us, nor can we be satisfied to let others do our work. Freedom is duty and self-reliance, not laziness or profligacy, for those only lead to need and slavery. Only freedom can strengthen our love for life, and we cannot allow ourselves to be enthralled by need or want, which in turn enthralls our children and descendants, and thus the future of our ancestors... Only freedom furthers freedom!

Perseverance: Perseverance is inherently dynamic in nature, and is essential to Natural Order. We must actively persevere and preserve our Immanence, our wisdom and our folk. We must persevere to achieve, and must remain stalwart in our works and commitments. Only through our dynamic achievement can we truly foster the developments and evolutionary gains of the Indo-European Ancestors - furthering the gains of our Fathers and those of our own generation, while laying firm foundations upon which our children (and the countless generations of our lines who will follow) can build and grow.

Although these are already plenty, it can be said that there are two further sets of nine values relating to Indo-European culture, having some overlap with the Virtues in wording, though with different operation, based on looking to the present or future. The second set, the Nine Noble Charges, deals with the present case; Yggdrasils's root of Being. These principles deal with evaluating current situations and mastering the “here and now” conditions for improvement, and were found in some shape or form in all Indo-European cultures at their root. Again, not all of these were universal across all Indo-European groups. But like it or not, all Indo-European societies practiced or recognized at least some of these principles in their halcyon days to some degree:


1. Asha: Becoming like the Aesir – walking in their Tru – is achieved by upward evolution (Asha) through nobility

2. Arya: Nobility (Arya) is the defiance of all shackles and slave creeds, the rejection of both material and spiritual slavery

3. Heritage: Nobility has a biologically heritable influence, though not dependent on arbitrary modern “identity” labels.

4. Effort: Nobility also has a spiritually autonomous influence, not dependent on heritage.

5. Sigr: Victory. Any individual has the theoretical ability and the ethical duty to pursue nobility by compensating for the shortcomings of heritage using effort, and thus overcome them.

6. Statistics: In a large population, for every overachiever there is an underachiever. For every new genius born, there are a hundred new fools. Therefore Sigr based on effort alone is not scaleable in the long run, and relying on effort alone to ennoble mankind is, in the long-term, completely useless.

7. Aryanism: The most reliable way to ennoble mankind is to form a noble-spirited (Aryan) Folk through which to consciously and repeatably ennoble and revive heritage, with compensatory effort to follow where necessary.

8. Supernatural Selection: Though respect for Nature is essential, we do not view our place in it complacently. Heritage cannot be ennobled so long as Nature is permitted to eliminate the noblest in favor of the fittest, and quality in favor of quantity (the 'fittest' in a purely Darwinian sense, are NEVER the noblest, nor even necessarily the strongest, but only those willing to stoop to anything to survive and reproduce; thus avoiding death by accepting slavery is the apex of "survival at any cost", and hence 'fitness' according to Darwin). Thus we must not be dependent on Nature alone to “sort us out”. It is our home and trust, not our herder.

9. Folk-Evolution: An environment must be established by the Folk, such that survival of the 'fittest' and greatest number is replaced by survival of the noblest and rarest number, so that such number may be increased and the prevalance of nobility encouraged. Guidance of family formation and reproduction by guardians of the culture must be the central feature of such an environment.

Finally we have the Nine Noble Journeys, pertaining to Yggdrasil's (or Har-Visp-Tokhm's) Root of Passing On towards New Arising – that is, creating the conditions and mindsets for a better generation to follow. This is where Indo-European cultures often manifested some of their most starkly transformative ideas, which were often communicated in Runes or other angular symbols. These were usually taught to initiates in the form of contrasts between the Noble and the Ignoble culture. Though not absolute dichotomies, for that would violate Lateral Thinking, these are general axioms that guide towards an upward path of improvement and away from the downward spiral of passivity and addiction that destroys peoples.

These principles were more on the esoteric end of things, and may not have been well-known as labels to people in the warrior and farmer classes, indeed they were almost subconscious or unconscious parts of the culture that mainly people like the Armanen contemplated consciously.


1. Immanence, not Tradition
Indo-European culture is constructed around an immanent ideal (Arya or higher nobility) that supersedes a specific identity or tradition. Unlike identitarian herder philosophies, Indo-European culture is never self-referential and does not use circular logic or arbitrary values to justify its existence. It exists to improve people, not just circumstances. The archetypes and rituals of Indo-European “tradition” in any given era and land gradually evolved into what they are because they have proven effective for this end – improvement of folk – over millennia, NOT because of blind devotion to Tradition for its own sake. Likewise with its choice of Gods – the Aesir or Asuras – who themselves represent constant improvement.

2. Rationalism, not Empiricism
Indo-European culture is based on understanding the universe (or multiverse) through the clarity of rationalism, with axioms of Natural Law (Orlog) that are demonstrably true across deep time, and cannot be twisted or spun – as opposed to herder culture's fanatical reliance on either dogmas, or on fallible empiricism which only builds data sets based on Boolean dichotomies – data sets that are now ever more prone to bias, manipulation, and non-repeatability based on who controls the funding. While experimentation has its place, both in material science and spiritual science, it can never nullify rationalism, any more than rocket engines nullify gravity.

3. Nobility, not Slavery
Indo-European culture is based on striving towards strength nobility (Ehrenschaft or Arya), which consists of spiritual invincibility and a refusal to tolerate any form of slavery or thralldom, whether temporal or spiritual. Thus, the emergence of thralldom among Vikings and other early Medieval societies was actually due to the decline of Indo-European values, not its true manifestation. For the Indo-European culture, slavery and humiliation is a fate worse than death, as there is honor in a dead man's deeds, but never in the deeds of the slave, master, or bystander.

4. Freedom, not Liberty
Nobility always strives for Freedom – a price many have paid in blood. Freedom however is not the same as liberty. A truly free person can never be enslaved with any offer of liberty or conditional “carrots”. Liberties are carrots on a slavemaster's terms, in exchange for servile behavior, including debt-slavery, whereas Freedom is self-reliance, even on a folk level, and the active and proud fulfillment of one's karmic duties towards the future of oneself and one's folk. Liberty is trading in one's freedom and duties to a herder system for a few temporary perks and far more restrictions. Freedom is rejection of the entire system of slavery - it is not "Liberty" but defiance.

5. Folkism, not Tribalism
Indo-European culture is an authentically Folkish and Universalist culture at once, though this is not what most people imagine these terms to be; this means it prioritizes the interests of Folk over non-Folk, but does not use superficial labels of tribe or modern ethnicity as excuses to exclude one from the Folk. A tribe, you are born into. A Folk, you join and build. Our Folk is all those who claim (and uphold) an Indo-European legacy and blood-memory, whether from one ancestor or a hundred, and manifest that noble spark in their actions as well as values, not merely appearances; who come from a place of craving wisdom and improvement, not arrogance, and who desire nobility, not merely survival or nepotism. This was the same in the ancient model. In ancient times the Folk was about improvement of its stock, not "identitarian" stagnation. The aim is a consciously formed Folk, not a static tribe of mediocre averages. Only then can the God-men be resurrected.

6. Childcare, not child-rearing
Indo-European culture strives for care of children with respect to their real-time interests as children, and support in all their best aspirations and self-willed endeavors. We reject ignoble and coercive “child-rearing” whether it's in the form of manipulative “safe space” coddling or openly coercive “tiger parenting”, both of which only consider breaking and manipulating children's behavior to the interests of the sheepish adults that herder society expects them to become. The children of Indo-European culture should be allowed to grow into Arhats, not beaten into sheep.

7. Martialism, not Survivalism
Indo-European culture is always directed by a martial level of loyalty to achieving the misson at hand. Indo-European culture is not survivalism, as its purpose it not its own mere self-perpetuation, or the mere self-perpetuation of any group or individual. Indo-European culture looks far beyond that, to the improvement of people (not just their circumstances) as well as the resurgence of noble Asa-nature in Midgard. Survival and replication is only valuable as a baseline means to this end. For both Sigurd and Rustam, victory over the forces of Nidh and Druj was infinitely more important than survival.

8. Compassion, not Altruism
Indo-European culture is based on universal compassion, though this is not what most people imagine it to be; it is not blind tolerance of all people and things as 'equally' good, as absolute equality simply does not exist in any conceivable category. True compassion what is best for the planet as whole, even when it is unpopular or “politically incorrect”. Indeed, compassion also includes putting a swift end to ignoble behaviors and, if need be, their chronic perpetrators. This is in opposition to both egoism and altruism, as altruism is merely reciprocal egoism, a means of endebting others, or aiding them for the purpose of extracting either an ego boost or favors from them, regardless of the net effect on Midgard. In addition, altruism may often not be truly compassionate when it makes people perpetually dependent, and robs them of the opportunity to fight their own battles and refine their karma. Compassion includes aiding the noble who have truly been struck with disaster, but it also recognizes a noble man's need to self-actualize, which altruism never does.

9. Evolutionism, not Conservatism or Liberalism
Indo-European culture and spirituality was all-encompassing, and therefore also encompasses social aspects; as a social paradigm, Indo-European culture contained many aspects of cultural evolution towards nobility, which would seem fairly radical today. It is neither conservative nor liberal but radical, and evolutionary, in the sense that it only ever aims for the root (radix) of a problem, and aims at evolving folk-nobility so that a bad radix has no chance to regrow - rather than denying the problem exists or attacking the messenger (conservatism), or covering it up with relativistic band-aids and half-measures (liberalism). That said, there are thousands of “radical” ideas that have nothing to do with Indo-European culture, and are in fact antithetical to it, so obviously “radicalism” on its own is neither here nor there. Whereas radical herder ideologies/social engineering (of which there are many in the modern world; we need not mention them all here) are radical slavery and reactivity, Indo-European culture is radical freedom and evolution.


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  2. Many thanks!
    On my way of learning, i found your pictures on Pinterest. You are making a great Work. It is not easy to write my thinkings in english, it is not my language. But i hope you understand, that your work is a big part of learning me to do, what i have to do. Thank you for it, in Aryan Brotherhood.


    1. Thank you. I wish you a happy Yule-Tag, Jol, or Yalda, wherever you may be.

      I am both a historical and an esoteric explorer. So I am glad that you and others have found value here in what I write, and I write it for people who are seeking deeper truths; there is so much confusion and disinformation out there that is dividing and confusing all the successor-nations of Arya, both north and south. I write this blog to cut through the noise and confusion, and once again reveal the Sun through the darkness. It is important for us all to rediscover the traits of Indo-European culture so we can once again live the values that made the best of our ancestors truly great.

      You are very welcome. Alaf Sal Fena!

  3. Cyrus, I'm a bit confused regarding Indo-European in relation to farming in Europe. Are you referring to early neolithic farming time lines and Indo-European migrations into Europe thousands of years ago ? My understanding of early neolithic farming was it started in Anatolia and Iran. The Anatolian branch migrated into Europe while the Iranian branch went eastwards. Farming introduction into Europe preceded the Indo-European migrations by thousands of years. I also understand the Indo-Europeans were primarily pastoralists coming from the Eurasian steppes. So with that said I'm puzzled about the importance on the farmer archetype. It doesn't seem to fit my understanding of the migrations into Europe.

    1. Thank you for the question, Stephen. To keep things concise, I will say this; the mainstream academic view of Indo-European cultures and migrations today is flawed, in some cases fatally so. Indo-European culture is in fact far older than the "pastoralists of the Eurasian steppes" from 6000 years ago. Much of what isn't deemed or taken seriously as Indo-European by many career academics in the postmodernist collegiate landscape that has spread its tendrils out since the 1960s, was in fact Indo-European, of an earlier age.

      The Farmer cultures of Anatolia and Iran, of whom some migrated into Europe, were indeed Indo-European; they formed the first wave of IE migrations which is sometimes known as "Indo-Anatolian". Same overall skull features as the later steppe migrations, same symbols, same use of the wheel and the horse, same domestication of cattle for plowing, similar genetics. As for the "steppe pastoralists", the reality is that most of them were actually not pastoralists, but farmers in the midst of a late Neolithic-age migration – the wheel and the plow being already known to them. This was the second wave of Indo-European migrations, sometimes referred to as Irano-Slavic in the east (Sintashta and its successors) and soon followed by a third wave migration known typically Celto-Germanic in the west (Yamnaya, Corded ware, and similar). Again, the plow was used, similar symbolism, the mythology involved cows as a mother-archetype, etc.

      Each of these waves had several succeeding branches and sub-waves in the following millennia (Indo-Anatolian wave gave rise to the Byblos culture, the Trojans, Hittites, Hurrians, Aryo-Greeks (titan-worshippers) etc. in later times... it was the oldest IE migration and thus the most mixed population). The second wave gave rise to Andronovo, BMAC, Yaz, Suryavashi/Indus Valley culture, etc. as it spread out and mixed with local hunter populations. The Celto-Germanic branch spread out in eastern Europe and the Celtic and Italic sub-branches went further west, again absorbing many paleolithic hunter populations like Cro-Magnons, Gravettians, etc. The Germanic sub-branch migrated west later.

    2. Particularly telling is the presence of the Mesolithic 'Mezine' sites in the Ukraine, in which the Swastika is already present in carvings of mammoth ivory, and already quite ornate, at 10,000 BCE (at the conservative end of estimates). This is at a stage in which the Ur-Aryan primary populations were still transitioning from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to an agricultural one (which is also indicated by the change in skull morph from brachycephalic to mesocephalic and eventually an increase of dolichocephalic by the time the Bug-Dniester culture comes about); hence the designs on the ivory birds and other carvings are not impressionistic like the Cro-Magnon ones at caves like Lascaux, but rather, geometric and showing a mastery of angles and the visual affects of stacked and nested parallel lines. Typically, art of a sophisticated ritual geometry accompanies the development of either farming, animal husbandry, or both; while the mainstream narrative of farming posits that it began in the Near east about 9500 BCE, the earliest Near Eastern cultures themselves - such as the Sumerians - credit, in their mythologies, even older cultures with teaching them farming, mathematics, irrigation, brick and stone construction, etc. 

      Most legendary among these were the Abgallu or "fish-men" from Dilmun, and judging by their description in the still stone-age context of the Sumerian creation myths, this Dilmun was most likely the fertile fields of Deylaman in northern Iran (on the Caspian Sea coast), not the salt-water desert archipelago of Bahrain as mainstream academia inexplicably argues tooth and nail. The Abgallu were said to have sailed down the river Abzu, which corresponds well to the Iranian Karun/Arvand-Rud river system, today only a faint shadow of its former length and depth... and it flows down to Khuzestan, and into the Persian Gulf, very close to where ancient Sumeria once was (the river, and the land itself, extended further then, as the Persian Gulf was smaller due to lower sea levels). They had, it seemed, mastered both rivers and seas. According to the Sumerian tales, these Abgallu people already had shining scale-mail armor and metal tools while Sumer (supposedly the first farmers, the first "civilization") were still in the stone age; they also rode on "giant sea serpents" which probably means dragon-headed longboats... something that apparently existed well before the Vikings.

      Artifacts of Indo-European design and motifs are being found in older and older time horizons, forcing those of us who take a spiritual and living view of the Ur-history of Greater Arya/Arjaz/Heryos/Eirinn ancestry, to not just critically but also laterally re-examine the dominant historical narrative in secular academia; from the point of view of those like myself, who seek a deeper spiritual understanding of Indo-European cultures, particularly of the Immanence which ancient peoples ascribed to them, by various names... the myths are to be taken seriously (not literally, as "half-man, half-fish" or "riders of sea serpents", nor fancifully as aliens from another planet, but rather as how the Sumerians in their then-primitive state could best explain the race of advanced, metal-scale-armored, seafaring people they had seen).

    3. There is much that the mainstream textbook view of history does not explain about ancient early neolithic artifacts and cultures with the symbolic, spiritual, morphological and even genetic fingerprints of Indo-European cultures all over them. Perhaps it's simply a matter of what date or time you draw the line at the wellspring of IE migrations. But then again, there were widespread migrations into Europe and Asia of what appear to be Indo-Europeans before the time of the "Urheimat" horizon suggested by Gimbutas and other mainstream Kurgan-theorists (a Turkic word by the way - not Indo-European!), whose views are no less construct than ours. They may call us revisionists; but for us, they are dogmatists, excluding any evidence that does not fit their consensus career narrative, clinging to a young-earth view of Indo-European culture which is contradicted by many substantial (and college educated) luminaries of the 20th century who resisted the postmodern slide into anti-antiquity bigotry - from Bal Tilak to Marcel Otte and Mario Alinei.

      Armanenschaft too, cognizes of an older origin of Indo-European or Ur-Aryan peoples, and takes the founding myths of Abgallu, Viracocha, Titans, Shennongshi, Arattans, and other "god-men" mentioned by diverse non-Indo-European cultures seriously, as (only slightly exaggerated) testimonies of encounters with a tall, gracile, farming culture of Indo-European description which mastered the land and seas, and left its symbols in all of these cultures. Aryan mythologies such as those of the Pishdadians in Iran and Gamayun in Slavic lands, add further color and flavor to this view of early IE or Ur-Aryan origins (actually just their existence, not even going back to the origin point yet!) that was largely accepted by the wise men of the ancient world.